On Wednesday’s “MSNBC Live,” Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) said that he has “a very hard time believing” former Trump attorney Michael Cohen would lie to Congress again, given that Cohen knows he can face severe penalties if he lies as a cooperator. Swalwell also stated that he doesn’t “really care too much” about President Trump’s hush money payments to women. Host Katy Tur asked, “So, congressman, have you heard anything today that would lead you to believe that the president committed a high crime or a misdemeanor?” Swalwell answered, “Yes, but I’m not going to make a conclusion. I’ve heard evidence. Evidence is not a conclusion, but it’s a reason to keep looking and testing other accounts. So, Katy — and I’m going to focus on Russia. Frankly, I don’t really care too much about the payoffs to the women. And I don’t think most people do either.” He continued, “As it relates to Russia, we learned that the president was in contact with Roger Stone. We saw in our investigation that all of the evidence pointed in that direction, that they talked throughout the campaign, and it would have been unnatural if Roger Stone didn’t share his conversations with WikiLeaks.
